{"id":206,"date":"2009-07-19T14:17:04","date_gmt":"2009-07-19T18:17:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?page_id=206"},"modified":"2021-08-10T13:44:39","modified_gmt":"2021-08-10T17:44:39","slug":"getting-a-green-card-in-10-not-so-easy-lessons","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?page_id=206","title":{"rendered":"Getting a Green Card in 10 not so easy lessons."},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\">(Give or take a few hundred lessons)<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Hello again,<br \/>\nThis page is set up so you will have a few clues on how  to get a green card for your new spouse. Please be advised that we are not  lawyers nor do we really have any idea what we are talking about. We will simply  tell you what Mrs. and Mrs. Webmaster had to go through in order for her to get  her Green Card.\n<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">As always, read the instructions on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uscis.gov\/\">USCIS <\/a>web site and if you feel a need,  contact a competent lawyer who specializes in immigration matters.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Step one: Get married. \ud83d\ude42 Ok, we know this seems obvious, but  you may be surprised how many people forget to do this.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Now that the humor is out of the way, you will need to download  a huge pile of forms. Not just the forms for the AOS, but also forms to get a  work permit and a travel parole if your spouse wishes to go back home for a  visit.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">To begin with, please visit the USCIS web page titled &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20131010105717\/http:\/\/www.uscis.gov:80\/portal\/site\/uscis\/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a\/?vgnextoid=4c2515d27cf73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=4c2515d27cf73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD\">Immigration  through a Family Member.<\/a>&#8221; This will explain what needs to be done and what  forms you need to fill out.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Here is a list of the forms you will need:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n<p align=\"left\">The Form \t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.uscis.gov\/portal\/site\/uscis\/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a\/?vgnextoid=3faf2c1a6855d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD\">I-485<\/a>. This  is the big one. It is the one for the Adjustment Of Status, or Green Card.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p align=\"left\">The Form \t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.uscis.gov\/portal\/site\/uscis\/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a\/?vgnextoid=73ddd59cb7a5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD\">I-765<\/a>. This  is for a work permit. As an immigrant, you are very limited in what you can do.  If you would like to work you will need to get one of these cards. Mrs.  Webmaster&#8217;s took 3 months to process.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p align=\"left\">The Form \tG-325  Biographic Information.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p align=\"left\">The Form \t<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20131010123354\/http:\/\/www.uscis.gov:80\/portal\/site\/uscis\/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a\/?vgnextoid=15d05d4c6608e010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD\">I-864EZ<\/a> <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the Act.  This appears to be a new version of the form we had to fill out.<br \/>\n<em><span style=\"font-size: x-small;\">(There are other versions as well. Please read the  \tdirections in regards to the \t<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20131007002003\/http:\/\/www.uscis.gov\/portal\/site\/uscis\/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a\/?vgnextoid=b70f8875d714d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD\"> I-864<\/a>, the \t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.uscis.gov\/portal\/site\/uscis\/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a\/?vgnextoid=0c7e8875d714d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD\"> I-864A<\/a>, The \t I-864P and the \t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.uscis.gov\/portal\/site\/uscis\/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a\/?vgnextoid=02055d4c6608e010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCRD&amp;vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD\"> I-864W<\/a> to see what applies for your situation)<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p align=\"left\">Once you get your work permit, you will need to get a Social  Security card. I would recommend visiting the &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210428054021\/http:\/\/www.ssa.gov\/pubs\/10002.html\">Your  Social Security Number And Card<\/a>&#8221; web page at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ssa.gov\/\">Social Security Administration web site<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Once you have everything gathered together, go through it  several times to make sure you actually have everything. You may also want to  create an Inventory page and use this as a cover sheet. Keep copies of  everything! You WILL need them again when the USCIS loses your paperwork.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">One document you may want to get copies of is your marriage  license. Mr. and Mrs. Webmaster went through 7 of them with the various  agencies, and the USCIS still managed to lose the one we included with the  document package.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Now that you have everything ready to go, you will need to  assemble everything for the USCIS.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p align=\"left\"><em><strong>First, put all I-485 and backup documentation in one  \tmanila envelope. We stapled relevant pages together (as in a 2-page form),  \tand held it all together with a big binder clip. Then, we did the same for  \tthe I-765 and backup documentation, putting it in a second manila envelope.  \tThen, we did the same for the I-131 and supporting documentation. Each of  \tthese envelopes was sealed and addressed to USCIS, with a note on the bottom  \tcorner stating what was in the envelope (&#8220;I-765, Employment Authorization  \tApplication&#8221;) Lastly, we put all 3 envelopes into one larger manila  \tenvelope, address it to USCIS, and mailed it off in one piece. <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p align=\"left\"><em><strong>Over there, they can then open the one envelope and  \tseparate the inside envelopes to the departments where they belong for  \tprocessing.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"left\">The above advice was given to the Webmaster from a poster on the  USENET group alt.visa.us.marriage-based by &#8220;Rene&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Make sure that you have all the checks ready to go. You may also  want some Kleenex or a handkerchief since you are going to be paying through the  nose for all this.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Now you will need to rent a large truck to carry all these forms  to the Post Office. Send everything to the address listed on the forms, with a  return receipt requested. This way you will know that someone got the packet.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Now you wait. Eventually you will receive a receipt from the  USCIS with a code number on it. the number will look like <span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">MSC000000000. (I have removed the actual numbers  used by us for privacy) You can then go to the USCIS web site and check the  status of your case. You should receive a separate receipt for each form you put  in. One for the AOS, One for the work permit and one for the travel parole. (We  didn&#8217;t submit for the parole, so we didn&#8217;t have a receipt for this)<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman;\">You can access the site by  following this link: <\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20090903002235\/https:\/\/egov.uscis.gov\/cris\/jsps\/index.jsp\">Case Status Service  Online<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">I would recommend creating an account there. You can then track  all the submitted forms in one location, and it&#8217;s a lot easier then trying to  type in the receipt numbers over and over again. If you go this route and create  the account you will be able to watch the virtual cobwebs appear in real time as  you wait for decisions on the various forms you submitted. You will also get an  email notification every time someone touches your cases. Personally I think  it&#8217;s just the cleaning staff moving things around and accidentally triggering  the notification process. Reliable this isn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Now the time lines. On the parole I can&#8217;t help you since I  didn&#8217;t get one for my wife. (Stupid, Stupid, Stupid!) The work permit took about  three months to process. The green card took over a year. I won&#8217;t go into the  Social Security card disaster we had to deal with in this section. Suffice to  say that we couldn&#8217;t get one until my wife had her work permit in hand.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">As things progress your spouse will be called in repeatedly to  provide &#8220;Biometric data.&#8221; In other words, fingerprints. Lots and lots of  fingerprints. For each form you submit you can expect to be called in at least  once. Mrs. Webmaster was called in three times. Once for her original work  permit, once for her green card and once for the second work permit that she  never needed. ($180 down the drain)<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Oh yes, if you submit for extensions on things like the travel  parole or work permits while waiting for the Green card, and the green card is  approved, kiss those other fees good bye! The USCIS doesn&#8217;t refund money for  services that aren&#8217;t used.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">When the USCIS starts working on the AOS, you may be called in  for an interview. This is to prove the marriage is valid and not a marriage of  convenience. This is their last chance to &#8220;Get you.&#8221; Bring pictures, the  marriage certificate, any bills that have both your names on them, the deed to  the house if you have one, (and have your spouse&#8217;s name added to it), leases on  rentals or small children if any. (I&#8217;m told that showing up with the wife in the  family way is considered very good proof)<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Mr. and Mrs. Webmaster lucked out. We didn&#8217;t have to go in for  an interview. My guess is that was due to the fingerprints from two U.S.  senators all over Mrs. Webmasters case files. Because of the delays we had  getting information or resolution, the Webmaster requested that his Senators  offices look into this for him. It appears that when the USCIS bureaucrats see  congressional fingerprints on the files, they tend to process them a little  quicker, especially when they see it from two different offices. Just my opinion  of course.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">After all this, your spouse should get her green card. (Provided  nothing goes wrong) This cad is good for two years and is called a Provisional  green card. After two years you will need to apply for the ten year card which  gets those provisions removed. Needless to say we haven&#8217;t done it yet. I would  recommend starting the paperwork within a year and keeping it updated until it  is time to submit it. I&#8217;ve been told that you should not submit it until 90 days  before it expires. I&#8217;ve also been told that you can get an extension if you need  to in case the processing time takes longer then 90 days. (Which it probably  will of course)<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">I hope this page provides you with some idea of what you need to  do. Good luck! You&#8217;ll need it. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Give or take a few hundred lessons) Hello again, This page is set up so you will have a few clues on how to get a green card for your new spouse. 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