{"id":11475,"date":"2013-04-12T16:35:51","date_gmt":"2013-04-12T20:35:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=11475"},"modified":"2022-10-26T05:11:36","modified_gmt":"2022-10-26T09:11:36","slug":"no-they-wont-take-your-guns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=11475","title":{"rendered":"No, they won\u2019t take your guns"},"content":{"rendered":"

Good day all. As you probably know, our so called representatives seem hellbent on taking away our rights, in this case the Second Amendment one. They are pushing through a so-called background check system that even the ACLU, no friend of the Second Amendment, has some concerns over.<\/p>\n

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All the usual suspects have been saying that \u201cOf course this won\u2019t be a back door registration system and we won\u2019t be coming to confiscate your guns.\u201d Well, guess what? It\u2019s already started. In New York there have been two incidents in the last couple of weeks of a blatantly illegal act by the Police and State Government. Here are some details from Fox News<\/a>:<\/p>\n

A New York resident got into a high-profile fight with the state government this week after officials ordered him to turn over his gun license and his firearms — a dispute that exposed potential problems with the recently passed gun law.<\/p>\n

Buffalo-area resident David Lewis has since gotten his license reinstated in what was apparently a case of mistaken identity under the state’s new SAFE Act. The case drew outrage on gun-rights blogs warning that the state was exploiting the law to seize weapons.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Now, one issue right off the bat. Where does it say that I, or anyone else, must have PERMISSION to enjoy MY RIGHTS? As far as I\u2019m concerned, any form of licensing that could preclude you from exercising your Second Amendment right to Keep and Bear Arms is illegal and unconstitutional.<\/p>\n

Lewis initially received a notice on April 1 from the Erie County clerk saying that his license was being immediately suspended. He was ordered to surrender it along with his seven registered handguns. “Based on the information received from the New York State Police, your pistol license [redacted] has been suspended by direction of the Licensing Officer for Erie County,” reads the letter sent to Lewis and obtained by Fox News. “Failure to comply with this court directive upon receipt of this letter will be sufficient grounds for the revocation of your pistol license.”<\/p>\n

Lewis, who does not have a criminal record, caught the eye of state officials because it was believed that because of a prescription for psychotropic drugs that he was a danger to others, his attorney claims.<\/p>\n

Lewis, after receiving the notice, contacted his lawyer Jim Tresmond, who accompanied him to the police department in Amherst and filed for a local hearing to have his client’s privileges restored.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And by what right did the State of New York have to strip Mr. Lewis of his Second amendment rights? Not only that, I think we also have the suppression of Mr. Lewis 4th<\/sup> and 5th<\/sup> amendment rights, not to mention a probable violation of the FEDERAL HIPAA ((Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act<\/a>)) statutes. At least the court determined that Mr. Lewis was in the right, and restored his \u201cPrivilege\u201d to exercise his rights.<\/p>\n

“This court has determined that the information received from the New York State Police, which served as the basis for suspension of the Licensee’s firearms license, was in error” reads the court order from Judge Boller. “…it is HEREBY ordered, the suspension of the firearms license herein is hereby terminated, and any firearms of the licensee being held by any police agency are to be returned.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I wouldn\u2019t have turned them in to begin with. Worst case, I would have reported them lost in a tragic canoe accident.<\/p>\n

The lawyer intends to file suit against the state.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I hope he intends to go for two things. Cold, Hard, Cash, and also to have these unconstitutional laws tossed once and for all.<\/p>\n

Then we have another man, John Mayer. Here are the details from Right Wing News<\/a>:<\/p>\n

New York state resident John Mayer was stunned when the police showed up at his home and demanded that he hand over all of his guns. Mayer\u2019s pistol license was also suspended.<\/p>\n

You might wonder what happened.<\/p>\n

Did Mayer commit some sort of felony? Was he implicated in a terrorist attack? Did he threaten to go shoot up the local school?<\/p>\n

No.<\/p>\n

It seems that his 10 year old son heard about some of his friends being bullied by some other boys at school. Mayer\u2019s son then discussed bringing a water pistol, a paintball gun and a BB gun to the home of the bullies.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Excuse me? I don\u2019t see any mention of bringing an AR15, .357 magnum or a shotgun in to school and blowing away the bullies. (The BB gun might be problematical)<\/p>\n

None of the boys actually owned any of these weapons and nothing came of the discussion, but word did get back to the school\u2019s principal. He suspended Mayer\u2019s son for two days and filed a police report.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

How about we sue this principle for everything he has? I see so many issues here it isn\u2019t funny.<\/p>\n

Afterwards, the police showed up at Mayer\u2019s house to confiscate his weapons and he was told his permit was revoked until his son turns 18 years of age<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And I would have told these Gestapo ((Geheime Staatspolizei<\/a>)) thugs to get the Hell of my property. If they tried to bulldoze there way into my house, I would have demanded to see their warrant. I would also have someone else on the phone to my lawyer.<\/p>\n

Mayer has hired a lawyer, James Murtha, who says that his client will be filing charges against both the Suffolk County Police and Hauppauge School District in federal court.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I hope it\u2019s both a civil suit and a criminal complaint for civil rights violations.<\/p>\n

Congratulations to John Mayer for refusing to meekly lie down and take it when the local police violated his constitutional rights. You can actually fight city hall and win, but the first step is to fight back. Let these guys get a little bad press and, let\u2019s hope, a judgment against them in court and you will be surprised how fast they\u2019ll start to respect the 2nd Amendment.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

One of the problems I see with these police state tactics is the probability of a major \u201cincident\u201d when police forget their role and try to storm someone\u2019s house. There will be shooting, and a high probability of police fatalities. The worst case scenario, (From the government point of view), will be a home owner successfully holding off the initial raid and calling his neighbors for help. Before the police, (Or federal agents\u201d realize what\u2019s happening, they will be surrounded. Then it will be a choice for them of surrender or being wiped out.<\/p>\n

Then we have California. They are about to outlaw pretty much all guns and ammunition in the state. What these tyrants have in mind is staggering.<\/p>\n