{"id":11569,"date":"2013-04-21T15:30:15","date_gmt":"2013-04-21T19:30:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=11569"},"modified":"2020-03-11T05:15:38","modified_gmt":"2020-03-11T09:15:38","slug":"boston-bombing-the-aftermath","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=11569","title":{"rendered":"Boston bombing, the aftermath"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Good day all. As you know, the two terrorists involved in the Boston Marathon bombing have been caught or killed. As of this posting, it looks like law enforcement is tracking down a sleeper cell that may or may not exist.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>However, there is also a few questions starting to be generated regarding the response by law enforcement when they were searching for the younger of the two terrorists, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. Now there is no doubt he and his happily dead older brother were a demonstrable threat to the city. However, the question about how law enforcement handled things after the initial shootout has me, and others wondering.<\/p>\n<p>First was the level of the response. Every single alphabet soup federal agency was involved in this along with the local and state police forces in Massachusetts. Why was this actually necessary? I can understand some of this if it was simply manpower. Watertown MA. is not a small area, so I can see the need for some help.<\/p>\n<p>However, why did they roll out every single Armored Personnel Carrier and HUMMV they had? I could see one or two being needed once they found Tsarnaev, and also one might have been needed by the Bomb Disposal units that were clearing up the unexploded bombs these two were throwing around with great abandon. (And no effect thankfully) But did they need so many to act as roadblocks? Why not just use police cars? Is this Baghdad or something?<\/p>\n<p>Then we have all those federal, state and local law enforcement dressed up like soldiers or ninjas. Why? Yes, I can understand the need for body armor, but that can go on right over the normal everyday uniforms police wear. And what was with all the extra equipment they were carrying? I expect soldiers on patrol to be carrying loads like that, not police.<\/p>\n<p>Then there was the shear number of \u201cSWAT\u2019 teams involved. From what I could see, each agency brought their own teams, some of the numbering in the hundreds. Realistically, they should only have needed 30-50 so equipped and dressed like ninjas or Marines. If it came down to another battle, (Which it did to some extent), then 30-50 men would have been plenty against one wounded bad guy with a death wish. The other officers, in their armor, would have set up a perimeter and acted as backup. Instead you had all those guys wondering around and frankly looking like they didn\u2019t have anything to do.<\/p>\n<p>Then we have the lock down of the city of Boston and it\u2019s suburbs. People were told to stay in their homes and then there was a house to house search with police entering people\u2019s homes. Granted they were in \u201chot pursuit\u201d of Tsarnaev, but I don\u2019t recall martial law being declared and the Constitution being suspended. I\u2019ve heard that a number of guns or drugs belonging to people were taken during these searches, but I have no confirmation as yet. (Probably an internet rumor)<\/p>\n<p>I can fully understand and support a limited search, and it\u2019s one thing if the homeowners invite the police to enter their homes. What I don\u2019t know was how many home owners said no and were simply pushed aside? I hope, none. Keystone State III has a series of pictures of the police conducting their searches.<\/p>\n<p>Another issue I have was locking the city down and ordering people to stay in their homes. Now if they had recommended that people stay in their homes, then I wouldn\u2019t have a problem, but ordering people to do so? While the \u201cRight to travel Freely\u201d is not in the constitution ((<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usconstitution.net\/constnot.html#travel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Right to Travel<\/a>)), there is a ton of case law that says we do have this right. Considering that the Constitution was meant to restrict government, the founders probably didn\u2019t think they needed to add an explicit right as they did with private ownership of guns ((<a title=\"Second Amendment\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Second Amendment to the United States Constitution<\/a>)).<\/p>\n<p>Boston Massachusetts is a very left wing, (Read Moonbat) city in a very blue state. It\u2019s completely under the thumb of the Progressive Liberal Elites and the <span style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\"><i>sheep<\/i><\/span> people have come to except that they have no real rights, only privileges that can be taken away at any time. You have to wonder how this same situation would have been handled in say Montana or Texas, where people pay attention to their rights.<\/p>\n<p>Now, after they finally got their hands on that little turd, the Federal government took control of him. Again, I really don\u2019t see to much of a problem here, although the crimes were committed in Massachusetts. There were a few federal crimes as well, one of them being, to my mind at least, treason. (Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is a naturalized citizen) After the scumbag was taken into custody, it came out that the FBI wasn\u2019t going to read him his Miranda Rights ((<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Miranda_warning\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Miranda warning<\/a>)). There have also been calls to designate Tsarnaev as an \u201cEnemy Combatant\u201d and ship him off to Guantanamo Bay for incarceration and interrogation once he\u2019s able to leave the hospital ((<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/news\/politics\/republican-chorus-grows-treat-surviving-suspected-marathon-bomber-enemy-combabtant-article-1.1323333\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Republican chorus grows to treat living suspected marathon bomber as enemy combatant<\/a>)).<\/p>\n<p>Now if Tsarnaev were still a legal resident alien and not a citizen, this might be doable. However, he is a citizen and as such has the same rights as anyone else. I can see not reading him his Miranda Rights as soon as he was taken into custody. The FBI wants to squeeze him a bit and find out if there were others involved and where they might be. None of that could be used in court against him, but it would be used as intelligence for the military in tracking down any associates overseas. (They have rights too. The right to be shot, hit with a Hellfire, napalmed, etc)<\/p>\n<p>To declare this dirtbag an \u201cEnemy of the people\u201d opens one hell of a large can of worms. I have no doubt there are hundreds of lawyers who are salivating at the Feds doing just this. (Shipping him off to Gitmo) It would bring to the forefront all the legislation and executive orders recently enacted, (Some going back nearly a century), that have essentially stripped American Citizens of their rights.<\/p>\n<p>Frankly, there is no need to do this. They have plenty of evidence to indict, try, get a conviction and execute him. There is no need to use unconstitutional means of interrogation or put him in front of a military tribunal. They didn\u2019t do this with Johnny Walker \u201cTaliban\u201d Lindh ((<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Walker_Lindh\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">John Walker Lindh<\/a>)) and he is a native born traitor. (At least he committed his treason overseas and went up against people who could shoot back)<\/p>\n<p>I think, once the dust settles, more and more questions on the actions of the Federal, State and Local police in this action are going to be scrutinized. This all seems to be a panicked reaction with no real plan in place, and the Feds deciding to just run roughshod over the peoples rights in order to \u201cGet their man.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In the end, they didn\u2019t actually get him. It was the owner of the boat who spotted the tarp on his boat being undone and investigating it. He spotted Tsarnaev, who was outside the search zone, and called in the police. If Tsarnaev were not so seriously injured, he might have actually gotten away.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not the only one asking questions about this \u201caction.\u201d Others, such as LC Light29ID posting on the <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150925161221\/http:\/\/nicedoggie.net\/?p=8053\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/market-ticker.org\/akcs-www?post=219969\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Karl Denninger on Market-Ticker<\/a>, Keystone State III and the Rick Moran <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americanthinker.com\/blog\/2013\/04\/should_dzhokhar_tsarnaev_be_designated_an_enemy_combatant.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">writing in the American Thinker<\/a> are also asking some tough questions. These all need to be addressed. The more paranoid among the American people, (And that number is growing daily), think this might have been an unintentional drill if Martial Law is declared and the Constitution suspended.<\/p>\n<p>I am not belittling what the police did when they engaged these two scumbags. They put their lives on the line. I just think that this whole thing should be reviewed for the next time, and I have no doubt there will be a next time, this happens.<\/p>\n<p>Thatisall<\/p>\n<p><i><b>~The Angry Webmaster~<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<span id=\"post-ratings-11569\" class=\"post-ratings\" data-nonce=\"9032e77644\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"rating_11569_1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-postratings\/images\/stars_crystal\/rating_on.gif?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"1 Star\" title=\"1 Star\" onmouseover=\"current_rating(11569, 1, '1 Star');\" onmouseout=\"ratings_off(1, 0, 0);\" onclick=\"rate_post();\" onkeypress=\"rate_post();\" style=\"cursor: pointer; border: 0px;\" \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"rating_11569_2\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-postratings\/images\/stars_crystal\/rating_off.gif?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"2 Stars\" title=\"2 Stars\" onmouseover=\"current_rating(11569, 2, '2 Stars');\" onmouseout=\"ratings_off(1, 0, 0);\" onclick=\"rate_post();\" onkeypress=\"rate_post();\" style=\"cursor: pointer; border: 0px;\" \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"rating_11569_3\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-postratings\/images\/stars_crystal\/rating_off.gif?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"3 Stars\" title=\"3 Stars\" onmouseover=\"current_rating(11569, 3, '3 Stars');\" onmouseout=\"ratings_off(1, 0, 0);\" onclick=\"rate_post();\" onkeypress=\"rate_post();\" style=\"cursor: pointer; border: 0px;\" \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"rating_11569_4\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-postratings\/images\/stars_crystal\/rating_off.gif?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"4 Stars\" title=\"4 Stars\" onmouseover=\"current_rating(11569, 4, '4 Stars');\" onmouseout=\"ratings_off(1, 0, 0);\" onclick=\"rate_post();\" onkeypress=\"rate_post();\" style=\"cursor: pointer; border: 0px;\" \/><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"rating_11569_5\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-postratings\/images\/stars_crystal\/rating_off.gif?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"5 Stars\" title=\"5 Stars\" onmouseover=\"current_rating(11569, 5, '5 Stars');\" onmouseout=\"ratings_off(1, 0, 0);\" onclick=\"rate_post();\" onkeypress=\"rate_post();\" style=\"cursor: pointer; border: 0px;\" \/> (<strong>2<\/strong> votes, average: <strong>1.00<\/strong> out of 5)<br \/><span class=\"post-ratings-text\" id=\"ratings_11569_text\"><\/span><\/span><span id=\"post-ratings-11569-loading\" class=\"post-ratings-loading\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/plugins\/wp-postratings\/images\/loading.gif?resize=16%2C16&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" class=\"post-ratings-image\" \/>Loading...<\/span>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Good day all. As you know, the two terrorists involved in the Boston Marathon bombing have been caught or killed. As of this posting, it looks like law enforcement is tracking down a sleeper cell that may or may not exist. <a href=\"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=11569\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":899,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,37,71,9],"tags":[11,52,3,17,9,26],"class_list":["post-11569","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-crime","category-liberty-politics","category-news-of-the-day","category-terrorism-crime","tag-america","tag-constitution","tag-crime","tag-liberty","tag-terrorism-crime","tag-terrorists"],"views":1201,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/marvin.png?fit=305%2C420&ssl=1","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":11588,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=11588","url_meta":{"origin":11569,"position":0},"title":"Welcome to the USSA","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"April 24, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. 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