{"id":15415,"date":"2014-07-08T09:49:23","date_gmt":"2014-07-08T13:49:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=15415"},"modified":"2014-07-07T15:01:38","modified_gmt":"2014-07-07T19:01:38","slug":"in-the-what-the-hell-was-he-thinking-department","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=15415","title":{"rendered":"In the \u201cWhat the hell was he thinking?\u201d department"},"content":{"rendered":"

Good day all. I saw this story last week and couldn\u2019t believe anyone could be as stupid as this scientist. How stupid is he? Ever hear of Spanish Flu? This virus hit during World War One and killed between 50-100 million people. This bonehead has modified another virus making it even more dangerous!<\/p>\n

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The scientist in question, Yoshihiro Kawaok has done this before, including trying to revive the original Spanish Flu virus. Here are the gory details from The Independent<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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A controversial scientist who carried out provocative research on making influenza viruses more infectious has completed his most dangerous experiment to date by deliberately creating a pandemic strain of flu that can evade the human immune system.<\/i><\/p>\n

Yoshihiro Kawaoka of the University of Wisconsin-Madison has genetically manipulated the 2009 strain of pandemic flu in order for it to \u201cescape\u201d the control of the immune system\u2019s neutralising antibodies, effectively making the human population defenceless against its reemergence.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\"The-Good-Idea-Fairy-3\"<\/a><\/p>\n

What the hell is this guy doing anywhere near a laboratory?<\/p>\n

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Most of the world today has developed some level of immunity to the 2009 pandemic flu virus, which means that it can now be treated as less dangerous \u201cseasonal flu\u201d. However, <\/i>The Independent<\/i><\/em> understands that Professor Kawaoka intentionally set out to see if it was possible to convert it to a pre-pandemic state in order to analyse the genetic changes involved. <\/i>The study is not published, however some scientists who are aware of it are horrified that Dr Kawaoka was allowed to deliberately remove the only defence against a strain of flu virus that has already demonstrated its ability to create a deadly pandemic that killed as many as 500,000 people in the first year of its emergence. <\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\"stupid_meter\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Does this idiot understand what he\u2019s doing? Oh, I have no doubt he understand the technical parts of what he\u2019s doing, but has he given any thought at all to what might happen if these modified viruses escape the lab, or worse, are stolen? Obviously not, although others in the field have thought about it and what this jackass has done.<\/p>\n

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\u201cHe took the 2009 pandemic flu virus and selected out strains that were not neutralised by human antibodies. He repeated this several times until he got a real humdinger of a virus,\u201d said one scientist who was present at Professor Kawaoka\u2019s talk. <\/i><\/p>\n

\u201cHe left no doubt in my mind that he had achieved it. He used a flu virus that is known to infect humans and then manipulated it in such a way that it would effectively leave the global population defenceless if it ever escaped from his laboratory,\u201d he said. <\/i><\/p>\n

\u201cHe\u2019s basically got a known pandemic strain that is now resistant to vaccination. Everything he did before was dangerous but this is even madder. This <\/i>is<\/i><\/em> the virus,\u201d he added. <\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\"double-facepalm\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Well, I see he has the entire community in agreement that he is a nutcase. At least he did this work in a highly secure laboratory. Umm, not really.<\/p>\n

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The work was carried out at Wisconsin University\u2019s $12m (\u00a37.5m) Institute for Influenza Virus Research in Madison which was built specifically to house Professor Kawaoka\u2019s laboratory, which has a level-3-agriculture category of biosafety: one below the top safety level for the most dangerous pathogens, such as Ebola virus. <\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Well, I think this bozo\u2019s work is at least as dangerous as working with the Ebola virus. So this lab isn\u2019t where this work should be done. It looks like the university agreed.<\/p>\n

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However, this study was done at the lower level-2 biosafety. The university has said repeatedly that there is little or no risk of an accidental escape from the lab, although a similar US Government lab at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta with a higher level-3 biosafety rating was recently criticised over the accidental exposure of at least 75 lab workers to possible anthrax infection. <\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

\"The<\/a>Level 2? LEVEL 2?!?!? I admit that I am NOT a biologist or a scientist, but I would think that if you are working on something with the potential to END ALL HUMAN LIFE, you would do it in the most secure labs available. Or better yet, not do it AT ALL! God, why do I feel like I\u2019m in a John Ringo novel<\/a>? I also have a few questions for the blithering idiots who let this go forward and funded it. Weren\u2019t they paying any attention at all?<\/p>\n

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Professor Kawaoka\u2019s work had been cleared by Wisconsin\u2019s Institutional Biosafety Committee, but some members of the committee were not informed about details of the antibody study on pandemic H1N1, which began in 2009, and have voiced concerns about the direction, oversight and safety of his overall research on flu viruses.<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cI have met Professor Kawaoka in committee and have heard his research presentations and honestly it was not re-assuring,\u201d said Professor Tom Jeffries, a dissenting member of the 17-person biosafety committee who said he was not made aware of Kawaoka\u2019s work on pandemic H1N1, and has reservations about his other work on flu viruses. <\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cWhat was present in the research protocols was a very brief outline or abstract of what he was actually doing\u2026there were elements to it that bothered me,\u201d Professor Jeffries said. <\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Only elements professor? What did you do to put a stop to this? Whine a little bit? Well, at least you are feeling a little bit of discomfort, unlike the other members of that committee.<\/p>\n

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Rebecca Moritz, who is responsible for overseeing Wisconsin\u2019s work on \u201cselect agents\u201d such as influenza virus, said that Professor Kawaoka\u2019s work on 2009 H1N1 is looking at the changes to the virus that are needed for existing vaccines to become ineffective. \u201cWith that being said, this work is not to create a new strain of influenza with pandemic potential, but [to] model the immune-pressure the virus is currently facing in our bodies to escape our defences,\u201d Ms Moritz said. <\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Again, I\u2019m just a layman, but it looks to me that this was something that both the United States and the Soviet Union was doing back in the Cold War days. They called it “Biological Warfare” I believe. One of the reasons we shut down our program, besides ethics, (Something you seemed to have missed in school), is that making a disease like this can and will blow back on your own populations. Letting this clod engineer a virus that can get around the human immune system tells me that you and all those others on that so-called \u201cOversight\u201d committee should not be let out unaccompanied by an adult.<\/p>\n

The article goes on in some depth on other elements of this clowns work, but in my mind it all boils down to one thing. These academics should be locked up for our own good. Has it occurred to Dr. Kawaok and all those others who allowed him to proceed that he is now a prime target for a terrorist kidnapping attempt? There is this little group of malcontents currently making a big mess in Iraq that would love to get their hands on him or people like him. As much as I hate to say this, here is a classic case where Congress needs to step in and shut this fool down and rake that university over the coals.<\/p>\n

We all make jokes about the \u201cZombie apocalypse\u201d and a lot of people have made a lot of money writing books or making movies about some virus or bioweapon that gets out. In fact, there is a serious on the cable network TNT called \u201cThe Last Ship\u201d that is dealing with that very plot line. I would very much like to keep things like this in the realm of make believe and not have it actually happen. Now if you will excuse me, I need to go order some biological warfare suits.<\/p>\n

Thatisall<\/p>\n

~The Angry Webmaster~<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n

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