{"id":16754,"date":"2014-12-18T13:45:09","date_gmt":"2014-12-18T18:45:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=16754"},"modified":"2019-02-03T15:21:57","modified_gmt":"2019-02-03T20:21:57","slug":"vermonts-plan-for-single-payer-healthcare-fails","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=16754","title":{"rendered":"Vermont\u2019s plan for single payer healthcare FAILS"},"content":{"rendered":"

Good day all. While I was berating the Angry Systems Administrator for breaking the RSS feeds again, I saw this story pop up. It looks like the Socialist People\u2019s Republic of Vermont has thrown in the towel on its plan to institute a single payer healthcare system.<\/p>\n

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The plan, called Green Mountain Care, was enacted in 2011 and was meant to be a socialists dream of a single payer system. The problem was, the numbers simply didn\u2019t work. Finally, Comrade Governor Shumlin threw in the towel. Here are some of the details from Politico<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin on Wednesday dropped his plan to enact a single-payer health care system in his state \u2014 a plan that had won praise from liberals but never really got much past the framework stage. \u201cThis is not the right time\u201d for enacting single payer, Shumlin said in a statement, citing the big tax increases that would be required to pay for it. <\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\"holes\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Big tax increases? Try virtual confiscation levels of taxation to pay for this disaster in waiting.<\/p>\n

Shumlin faced deep skepticism that lawmakers could agree on a way to pay for his ambitious goal and that the feds would agree to everything he needed to create the first state-based single-payer system in 2017. <\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

That was another major issue, thinking that the Federal Government would pay for Vermont\u2019s socialist experiments. You would think the Governor would have paid attention to the resistance to Obamacare. Being a typical delusional moonbat, he didn\u2019t and almost paid the proce for it.<\/p>\n

And that was all before Shumlin, a Democrat, almost lost reelection last month in one of the country\u2019s most liberal states. And it was before MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, the now notorious Obamacare consultant who also advised Vermont until his $400,000 contract was killed amid the controversy, became political poison. <\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\"jonathan_gruber\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Oh, did I mention that Jonathon \u201cSchickel\u201d Gruber was heavily involved in Green Mountain Care? I didn\u2019t? Silly me. Then there was the problem of Shumlin not meeting deadlines on how this mess was going to be paid for.<\/p>\n

Shumlin had missed two earlier financing deadlines but finally released his proposal. But he immediately cast it as \u201cdetrimental to Vermonters.\u201d <\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And why did he cast this as \u201cDetrimental to Vermonters?\u201d Could it be that the taxes to pay for it would have been ruinous?<\/p>\n

The model called for businesses to take on a double-digit payroll tax, while individuals would face up to a 9.5 percent premium assessment. Big businesses, in particular, didn\u2019t want to pay for Shumlin\u2019s plan while maintaining their own employee health plans. <\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And would you care to guess just how many of these companies would relocate out of Vermont if those taxes were imposed? Try just about all of them. Heck, I wouldn\u2019t have been surprised if those two socialist founders of Ben&Jerry\u2019s ice cream didn\u2019t pull up stakes and move to New Hampshire. (They have not been invited to Texas according to rumors) In remarks on giving up on this monstrosity, Governor Shumlin said:<\/p>\n

\u201cThese are simply not tax rates that I can responsibly support or urge the Legislature to pass,\u201d the governor said. \u201cIn my judgment, the potential economic disruption and risks would be too great to small businesses, working families and the state\u2019s economy.\u201d<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I think he couldn\u2019t support the massive tax reasons for a few reasons. First, as I just wrote, there would be an exodus of business from the state that would surpass those now fleeing California. Then there was the odds of this getting through the legislature. Finally, Shumlin and others probably had personal self preservation in their minds. If they rammed this through, the odds are someone would have take a shot at him. Best of all? This wasn\u2019t a pure single payer system to begin with.<\/p>\n

And that was for a plan that would not be truly single payer. Large companies with self-insured plans regulated by ERISA would have been exempt. And Medicare also would have operated separately, unless the state got a waiver, which was a long shot. <\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\"Flying<\/a><\/p>\n

Yep, it wasn\u2019t a true single payer system. That would have canceled all other health insurance plans and forced everyone into the Green Mountain No<\/i><\/span> Care system. After the Obamacare debacle, and the outright lies by Der Fubar, (Such as \u201cIf you like your plan, you can keep it,\u201d and that golden oldy, \u201cIf you like your doctor, you can keep him.\u201d), I suspect that Shumlin realized that this thing would collapse faster then Obamacare is collapsing. Needless to say, the \u201cUsual Suspects\u201d are up in arms over Shumlin\u2019s bow to fiscal reality.<\/p>\n

Advocates of a single-payer plan said Shumlin should not be able to cast aside Act 48, the 2011 law that called for the creation of Green Mountain Care, without repealing it. A group planned to hold a rally in front of the statehouse on Thursday to protest his decision.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\"Hippie\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Oh joy, the Smelly Hippies put in an appearance.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe governor\u2019s misguided decision was a completely unnecessary result of a failed policy calculation that he pursued without Democratic input,\u201d the group Healthcare Is a Human Right Campaign said in a statement. <\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\"Stuck<\/a><\/p>\n

Oh I like this. Healthcare is a human right? Since when? I wonder if those stinky hippies have ever looked into the history of medicine? I wonder if they ever heard of a physician named Galen? ((Aelius Galenus or Claudius Galenus<\/a>)) What are their solutions to those people who don\u2019t live anywhere near a doctor or a nurse? You know, places like Borneo or Africa? And other then saying the governor can\u2019t do math, these hippies just mouth platitudes and then take another hit off the community bong.<\/p>\n

\"double-facepalm\"<\/a><\/p>\n

The problem with any and all government healthcare system is that it doesn\u2019t work. All you need to do is look towards the British National Health Service or the Canadian system. Both systems are poorly run, all but bankrupt and ration medical care. People literally go into NHS run hospitals and died of dehydration because the nurses couldn\u2019t be bothered to actually do their jobs.<\/p>\n

While there are issues with the current healthcare system, putting it under centralized government control is not the solution. Governor Shumlin has faced reality, to some extent, and has given up on the plan to institute a socialist healthcare system in Vermont. Now all we need to do is kill Obamacare off once and for all and start all over and build a system that minimizes government control.<\/p>\n

Thatisall<\/p>\n

~The Angry Webmaster~<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n

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Vermont’s Giving Up On Single-Payer Health Care Over …<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
Even while plans were moving forward for a 2017 launch of the single-payer system, to be called Green Mountain Care, Shumlin had held off on releasing a plan for how to pay for the system, waiting until his announcement Wednesday.<\/div>\n
http:\/\/dailycaller.com\/ \u2014 Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:35:46 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Pull the Plug on Green Mountain Care – True North Reports<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
That’s where we are with the Single Payer catastrophe known as Green Mountain Care. It’s a disaster waiting to happen, and Governor Shumlin and the Vermont legislature should exercise some fiduciary responsibility to the people of …<\/div>\n
http:\/\/truenorthreports.com\/ \u2014 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:36:31 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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OP-ED | High-stakes Health Care Battle In The Green …<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
Two weeks from now, Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin will describe how he thinks the country’s first state-based single payer system will be financed. Whether the Green Mountain State keeps moving forward with its goal of achieving universal …<\/div>\n
http:\/\/www.ctnewsjunkie.com\/<\/a> \u2014 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:30:39 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Green Mountain PAC – Political Party Time<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
Annual Pancake Breakfast Featuring Real Vermont Maple Syrup for Green Mountain PAC (Patrick Leahy (D-Vt)). When: Dec. 10th, 2014 (8:30 a.m.); Where: Art & Soul – The Liaison Capitol Hill 415 New Jersey Ave. NW; Type of Event: Annual …<\/div>\n
http:\/\/politicalpartytime.org\/blogindex\/ \u2014 Wed, 10 Dec 2014 00:00:00 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Shumlin to propose 8% payroll tax, progressive income tax …<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
People who are income-eligible to pay at lower sharing levels on the Vermont Health Connect exchange will pay at no more than those levels under Green Mountain Care. The same is true for Medicaid beneficiaries who cannot pay more than …<\/div>\n
http:\/\/www.correntewire.com\/blogs\/lambert \u2014 Sat, 06 Dec 2014 21:17:25 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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VIDEO: Obamacare a Bummer for Vermont Governor As He …<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
The promoters of Vermont’s single-payer program, dubbed Green Mountain Care, asserted that the governors funding proposal was not responsible for his being shown the door, that there were plenty of reasons that voters were upset in the …<\/div>\n
http:\/\/viral.buzz\/ \u2014 Sat, 06 Dec 2014 16:29:09 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Single payer financing in Vt. likely to start with 8 percent …<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
People who are income eligible to pay at lower sharing levels on the Vermont Health Connect exchange will pay at no more than those levels under Green Mountain Care. The same is true for Medicaid beneficiaries who cannot pay more than …<\/div>\n
http:\/\/www.benningtonbanner.com\/state\/ \u2014 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:16:08 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Administration Hopes Payroll Tax Will Pressure Exempt …<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
… Green Mountain Care program. “You can not force them to participate in Green Mountain Care if they want to maintain they own program but on the flip side you can not leave them out very easily on the pay in side.” – Administration Secretary Jeb Spaulding speaking about large companies that self insure their health care coverage. Listen. Listening… \/. 2:51. Currently, about 20 percent of all employees in Vermont work for large companies that self insure their health care coverage.<\/div>\n
http:\/\/digital.vpr.net\/<\/a> \u2014 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:33:59 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Uncover ObamaCare | Vermont’s True Cost of Single Payer …<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
\u201cPeter Galbraith, a former U.S. ambassador and two-term Democratic state senator from Windham County, holds the distinction of being the only lawmaker to have put forward a plan,\u201d to pay for Green Mountain Care, Vermont’s single-payer …<\/div>\n
http:\/\/uncoverobamacare.com\/ \u2014 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:38:11 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Spoiler alert: VT state senator details cost of single-payer …<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
But at least one man knows what Vermonters can expect to pay for Green Mountain Care and isn’t afraid to tell. Peter Galbraith, a former U.S. ambassador and two-term Democratic state senator from Windham County, holds the distinction of …<\/div>\n
http:\/\/truenorthreports.com\/ \u2014 Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:20:08 -0800<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Universal Healthcare in America: Vermont at the Crossroads …<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n
After this year’s midterm elections, many are revisiting an issue that rallied so many Vermonters together in previous election cycles: single-payer healthcare. Green Mountain Care, established by Bill H.202 in 2011 as the first single-payer …<\/div>\n
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