{"id":22325,"date":"2016-10-05T10:30:50","date_gmt":"2016-10-05T14:30:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=22325"},"modified":"2020-10-17T12:58:27","modified_gmt":"2020-10-17T16:58:27","slug":"and-the-winner-of-the-2016-vp-debate-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=22325","title":{"rendered":"And the winner of the 2016 VP debate is&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mike Pence by a knockout. Good day all, last night was the debate between Vice Presidential candidates Mike Pence and Tim Kaine. The reports this morning indicate that Time Kaine did not have a very good night at all.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/hillary-shocked.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-20805\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/hillary-shocked-300x153.jpg?resize=300%2C153\" alt=\"hillary shocked\" width=\"300\" height=\"153\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/hillary-shocked.jpg?resize=300%2C153&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/hillary-shocked.jpg?resize=500%2C256&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/hillary-shocked.jpg?w=665&amp;ssl=1 665w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>First, I did not watch this debate. I am going by the stories on various web sites on what happened, and that includes the Mostly Stupid Media. In general, they are saying that the debate was won by Mike Pence in a landslide. Consider that the first Trump\/<span style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\"><i>Felon<\/i><\/span> Clinton debate, it was scored as a narrow win on points for Cankles. This debate isn\u2019t being scored narrowly, it\u2019s showing that Pence torpedoed and sank Kaine. Here is one remark on the debate from <a href=\"http:\/\/spectator.org\/bio\/melissa-clouthier\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Melissa Clouthier<\/a> writing for <a href=\"http:\/\/spectator.org\/internet-freedom-in-peril\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the American Spectator<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>This election cycle, a huge percentage of voters are voting against who they hate\/distrust the most. People dislike Hillary Clinton and think she\u2019s a criminal who is above the law and disdains average voters. People worry that Donald Trump has bad judgment and makes stupid decisions. <\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>For the fence-sitters, Mike Pence made the decision easy: Even-tempered and reasonable, factual and clear-headed, informed and sympathetic, Mike Pence sounded like he could be president. He was reassuring. Tim Kaine made Hillary\u2019s job harder, not easier. He was rude, disrespectful, lied and was just generally a jerk. He looked juvenile and defensive. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/shocked-face.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-20636\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/shocked-face-300x225.png?resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"shocked-face\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/shocked-face.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/shocked-face.png?w=400&amp;ssl=1 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The moderator, Clinton Broadcasting Service, (CBS), anchor, Elaine Quijano, decided to hammer on Pence and generally give Kaine a pass. However, there were several cases where even she had to basically tell Kaine to put a sock in it. Still, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/opinion\/2016\/10\/05\/another-debate-another-biased-moderator-quijano-dumps-on-trump-pence.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Fox News<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>Quijano turned left from the very first question \u2013 citing 1988 liberal, Democratic vice presidential candidate Lloyd Bentsen\u2019s comment about the responsibility of being vice president. She recalled that he said, \u201cif tragedy should occur, the vice president has to step in without any margin for error.\u201d That set the stage perfectly and signaled viewers that the debate was to be seen consistently from the left. And Quijano didn\u2019t disappoint. <\/b><\/p>\n<p>And it also blew Kaine right out of the water and elevated Pence, although that was not her intent. Ms. Quijano gave the Conservative public one question in their favor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>Quijano started out fine, asking <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/the-fix\/wp\/2016\/10\/04\/the-mike-pence-vs-tim-kaine-vice-presidential-debate-transcript-annotated\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kaine<\/a> how he, \u201cpraised Secretary Clinton&#8217;s character, including her commitment to public service, yet 60 percent of voters don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s trustworthy. Why do so many people distrust her? Is it because they have questions about her emails and the Clinton Foundation?\u201d <\/b><\/p>\n<p>That was it for tough questions to Kaine. After that, she went after Pence. The only problem was, he came off as able to deal with her attacks and appearing to look very vice-presidential, if not presidential. This brings us back to Ms. Clouthier\u2019s column in the <a href=\"http:\/\/spectator.org\/internet-freedom-in-peril\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">American Spectator<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>Some talking heads are arguing that Pence\u2019s competence outshines Donald Trump\u2019s and reveals Trump\u2019s weaknesses. In fact, that\u2019s the narrative the lefty media is building right now. They can try, but that argument falls flat. Trump\u2019s decision to hire to his weaknesses with Mike Pence shows leadership ability. It\u2019s the first big choice a candidate makes. His decision to pick Mike Pence shows excellent judgment. If his choice of Veep indicates his decision-making as president, Trump is the good manager he claims to be. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-20619\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-300x214.jpg?resize=300%2C214\" alt=\"Donald Trump\" width=\"300\" height=\"214\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?resize=300%2C214&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?resize=768%2C548&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?resize=1024%2C731&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?resize=500%2C357&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?w=1180&amp;ssl=1 1180w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><b>Hillary Clinton\u2019s decision to pick a toady like Kaine also demonstrates her judgment. He\u2019s as likable as her\u2013nasty, aggressive and hostile. So two unlikable Democrats. Swell. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Epic_Facepalm_by_RJTH.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-15907\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Epic_Facepalm_by_RJTH-300x225.jpg?resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"Epic_Facepalm_by_RJTH\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Epic_Facepalm_by_RJTH.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Epic_Facepalm_by_RJTH.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Epic_Facepalm_by_RJTH.jpg?w=900&amp;ssl=1 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>There has been some talk that Trump isn\u2019t so interested in policy and that his Vice President will be given power that few other Vice Presidents have ever enjoyed. If true, that also bodes well. Pence is adept policy-wise and worked for twelve years in Congress. As he reminded Tim Kaine twice, he\u2019ll be happy to work with the opposition on the Hill.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>And that is the thing. Trump, unlike Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, doesn\u2019t consider himself the smartest guy in the room. He knows that he doesn\u2019t know everything, and he will then move to either educate himself, or hire someone who can handle the job for him. His most important hire has just demonstrated that he is up to the job.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-16344\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting-199x300.jpg?resize=199%2C300\" alt=\"Reagan_toasting\" width=\"199\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting.jpg?resize=199%2C300&amp;ssl=1 199w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting.jpg?resize=500%2C753&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting.jpg?w=597&amp;ssl=1 597w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 199px) 100vw, 199px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In perusing the Internet, the word \u201cDebacle\u201d is being used with regards to Tim Kaine\u2019s performance. All of the \u201cMain Stream Media\u201d are saying that he failed completely to show that if required, he could step in and take over in case Cankles is unable to carry out the duties of <span style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\"><i>Supreme Leader and Overlord<\/i><\/span> President of the United States. How this will play out in the polls remains to be seen. If Trump does significantly better in the next debate, then he will be the next president. (As he should be)<\/p>\n<p>Thatisall<\/p>\n<p><i><b>~The Angry Webmaster~<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p>[yasr_visitor_votes size=&#8221;large&#8221;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mike Pence by a knockout. Good day all, last night was the debate between Vice Presidential candidates Mike Pence and Tim Kaine. The reports this morning indicate that Time Kaine did not have a very good night at all. <a href=\"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=22325\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[4,37,100,71,8],"tags":[303,4,226,101,8],"class_list":["post-22325","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-entertainment","category-liberty-politics","category-moonbat","category-news-of-the-day","category-politics","tag-donald-trump","tag-entertainment","tag-hillary-clinton","tag-news","tag-politics"],"views":547,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":41560,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=41560","url_meta":{"origin":22325,"position":0},"title":"And that\u2019s all she wrote for Mike Pence","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"October 29, 2023","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. Mike Pence was the Vice President for the Greatest President of the 21st Century, Donald Trump. There were a number of reasons Candidate Trump chose him. As Vice President, Mike Pence did a fairly good job with the tasks provided him, unlike Kamala Harris. However, when the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Just Desserts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Just Desserts","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=135"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/22\/d1\/2a\/22d12aeca59c54c37aa974bce011237b.png?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":21690,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=21690","url_meta":{"origin":22325,"position":1},"title":"And the next Vice President of the United States is&#8230;","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"July 14, 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"Apparently Governor Mike Pence. Good day all. I go to the grocery store for an hour and I come back with the news that Trump has chosen Mike Pence to be his running mate.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Hero&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Hero","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=181"},"img":{"alt_text":"Donald Trump","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-300x214.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":42440,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=42440","url_meta":{"origin":22325,"position":2},"title":"Former VP Mike Pence confirms he is a deep state backstabber","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"March 26, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. There has been some serious issues between Mike Pence and the Greatest President of the 21st Century since Pence refused to even consider that there were issues with the Tainted Election of 2020, (and still won\u2019t). Since then Pence has shown himself to be just another member\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Just Desserts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Just Desserts","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=135"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/22\/d1\/2a\/22d12aeca59c54c37aa974bce011237b.png?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":22403,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=22403","url_meta":{"origin":22325,"position":3},"title":"The Great Debate, Pt. 3","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"October 20, 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. Last night was the third and final debate between Donald Trump and Felonia von Pantsuit, aka Hillary Clinton. Generally, the \u201cpundits\u201d are giving the win, grudgingly, to Donald Trump.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Crime&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Crime","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=3"},"img":{"alt_text":"Donald Trump","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-300x214.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":40858,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=40858","url_meta":{"origin":22325,"position":4},"title":"Mike Pence ends his presidential bid, even if he doesn\u2019t know it yet","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"July 15, 2023","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. When President Trump, as Candidate Trump, selected Mike Pence to be his running mate, the idea was to bring someone from the Establishment to help Trump handle things in Washington. More or less, Pence performed to specifications, until the Tainted Election of 2020. When evidence showed that\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Economy&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Economy","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=176"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/22\/d1\/2a\/22d12aeca59c54c37aa974bce011237b.png?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":41222,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=41222","url_meta":{"origin":22325,"position":5},"title":"Mike Pence is finding out what happens when you backstab your President","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"September 14, 2023","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. Former Vice President Mike Pence is running for President. He\u2019s currently doing about as well as Jeb! Please Clap Bush in the polls. It shouldn\u2019t have been this way of course, Pence should have been campaigning as President Trump\u2019s successor. Instead, Pence basically shafted the Greatest President\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Just Desserts&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Just Desserts","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=135"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/22\/d1\/2a\/22d12aeca59c54c37aa974bce011237b.png?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22325","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=22325"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22325\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32158,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22325\/revisions\/32158"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=22325"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=22325"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=22325"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}