{"id":23613,"date":"2017-02-17T15:02:15","date_gmt":"2017-02-17T20:02:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=23613"},"modified":"2020-11-11T15:06:52","modified_gmt":"2020-11-11T20:06:52","slug":"boeing-workers-to-union-get-lost","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=23613","title":{"rendered":"Boeing workers to Union: Get lost!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Good day all. A while ago, Boeing opened a plant in South Carolina. One of the reasons they did this was South Carolina\u2019s pro-business environment. This is due to South Carolina being a \u201cRight to Work\u201d state.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-20619\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-300x214.jpg?resize=300%2C214\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"214\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?resize=300%2C214&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?resize=768%2C548&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?resize=1024%2C731&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?resize=500%2C357&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg?w=1180&amp;ssl=1 1180w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>In a right to work state, a worker can\u2019t be forced to join a union or otherwise be forced to pay a union in order to work for an employer. This doesn\u2019t mean that a union is forbidden to organize a plant. They may go ahead and try if they can convince the workforce that it\u2019s to their benefit to be part of a union. For those opposed, and a union is formed, they can\u2019t be forced out of their jobs.<\/p>\n<p>It also makes it a bit harder for union\u2019s to get into a business in the first place. All their normal organizing tools, (intimidation, threats, beatings, and a no secret ballots), can\u2019t be used. Recently, the International Association of Machinists tried to organize the Boeing plant in South Carolina. The attempt didn\u2019t go as planned. Here are the details <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20170218135905\/http:\/\/www.foxnews.com:80\/us\/2017\/02\/15\/south-carolina-boeing-workers-overwhelmingly-vote-against-unionization.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">from Fox News<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>Nearly three-quarters of eligible production workers at Boeing&#8217;s South Carolina plant voted Wednesday not to join the International Association of Machinists in a major setback for organized labor. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.postandcourier.com\/business\/boeing-s-north-charleston-workers-vote-against-machinists-union-representation\/article_785f3b30-f3b3-11e6-b13e-b75e5147c25a.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Post &amp; Courier newspaper<\/a> reported that 2,097 of 2,828 voting workers \u2014 74.2 percent \u2014 cast ballots against unionization. <\/b><\/p>\n<p>Yeah, I would say that is a pretty resounding, crushing even, defeat for the union.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>Under NLRB rules, workers must wait a year before another union vote. In a statement, Machinists organizer Mike Evans said the union was disappointed with the vote but vowed to stay in close touch with Boeing workers to figure out next steps. <\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/union-thug-300x207.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9119\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/union-thug-300x207.jpg?resize=300%2C207\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"207\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/union-thug-300x207.jpg?resize=300%2C207&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/union-thug-300x207.jpg?resize=150%2C103&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Since three quarters of the eligible workers told you to take a long walk off a short pier, I think that if the phone doesn\u2019t ring, it will be the employees. I really don\u2019t see that many changing their minds in a year, and since this is South Carolina, your usual methods of persuasion will be answered in a similar manner. Actually, they might answer with heavier weapons.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>&#8220;Ultimately it will be the workers who dictate what happens next,&#8221; Evans said. &#8220;We&#8217;ve been fortunate enough to talk with hundreds of Boeing workers over the past few years. Nearly every one of them, whether they support the union or not, have improvements they want to see at Boeing. Frankly, they deserve better.&#8221; <\/b><\/p>\n<p>And you\u2019re going to get those improvements for them? Excuse me while I ponder this.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">[youtuber youtube=&#8217;http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Gbp_JQ7RxqM&#8217;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>The vote was an uphill battle for the union and its backers. The global aviation giant, which came to South Carolina in part because of the state&#8217;s minuscule union presence, did so with the aid of millions of dollars in state assistance made possible by officials who spoke out frequently and glowingly with anti-union messages. <\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><b>&#8220;It is an economic development tool,&#8221; then-South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, now President Donald Trump&#8217;s ambassador to the United Nations, said in a 2012 address of how she sold companies on coming to the state. &#8220;We&#8217;ll make the unions understand full well that they are not needed, not wanted and not welcome in the state of South Carolina.&#8221; <\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-16344\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting-199x300.jpg?resize=199%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"199\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting.jpg?resize=199%2C300&amp;ssl=1 199w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting.jpg?resize=500%2C753&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/Reagan_toasting.jpg?w=597&amp;ssl=1 597w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 199px) 100vw, 199px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Private sector unions are dying. They long ago stopped representing the workers and saw them as nothing more then dues paying serfs. We have seen, in one state after another, when Right to Work laws are enacted, Unions are generally shown the door by their own members. While some of the employees of Boeing may have some issues, I think that Boeing will answer them and see what they can do. They want to keep the troublemakers from the unions as far away from them as they can. They have first hand knowledge of their antics in Seattle. Good work to the Boeing employees in South Carolina. I can\u2019t wait to take a trip on one of the new Dreamliners you\u2019re building.<\/p>\n<p>Thatisall<\/p>\n<p><i><b>~The Angry Webmaster~<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p>[yasr_visitor_votes size=&#8221;large&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"border-radius: 2px; text-indent: 20px; width: auto; padding: 0px 4px 0px 0px; text-align: center; font: bold 11px\/20px 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; color: #ffffff; background: #bd081c no-repeat scroll 3px 50% \/ 14px 14px; position: absolute; opacity: 1; z-index: 8675309; display: none; cursor: pointer;\">Save<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"border-radius: 2px; text-indent: 20px; width: auto; padding: 0px 4px 0px 0px; text-align: center; font: bold 11px\/20px 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; color: #ffffff; background: #bd081c  no-repeat scroll 3px 50% \/ 14px 14px; position: absolute; opacity: 1; z-index: 8675309; display: none; cursor: pointer;\">Save<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Good day all. A while ago, Boeing opened a plant in South Carolina. One of the reasons they did this was South Carolina\u2019s pro-business environment. This is due to South Carolina being a \u201cRight to Work\u201d state. <a href=\"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=23613\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[135,71,8,95],"tags":[142,101,21,59],"class_list":["post-23613","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-just-desserts","category-news-of-the-day","category-politics","category-union-thugs","tag-jobs-2","tag-news","tag-scams","tag-unions"],"views":693,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":5393,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=5393","url_meta":{"origin":23613,"position":0},"title":"San Fran Nan Strikes Again","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"November 1, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"Greetings all, Angry Webmaster here. 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