{"id":28146,"date":"2019-02-25T06:24:47","date_gmt":"2019-02-25T11:24:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=28146"},"modified":"2019-02-25T06:24:47","modified_gmt":"2019-02-25T11:24:47","slug":"taxes-refunds-and-misunderstandings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=28146","title":{"rendered":"Taxes, refunds and misunderstandings"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Good day all. I sit here, finalizing my taxes and accepting that the mantra of the day will be, \u201cI owe, I owe, it\u2019s off to the IRS I go!\u201d Yes, I will not be getting a refund. However, I\u2019m not screaming, crying and whining about it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/pay-taxes.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-7369\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/pay-taxes-239x300.jpg?resize=239%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"239\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/pay-taxes.jpg?resize=239%2C300&amp;ssl=1 239w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/pay-taxes.jpg?resize=119%2C150&amp;ssl=1 119w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/pay-taxes.jpg?w=400&amp;ssl=1 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 239px) 100vw, 239px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>While not having to blast open the Anger Central piggy bank, I wasn\u2019t surprised that I wasn\u2019t getting a refund. Why? Because I have set my withholding to the minimum I can, that\u2019s why. I\u2019ve been watching the stories about people who are suddenly finding out that they aren\u2019t getting a refund, or are getting one that is smaller than they anticipated. The them I say, \u201cWhat are you, morons?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/recovering-dumbass.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-16080\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/recovering-dumbass-300x219.jpg?resize=300%2C219\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"219\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/recovering-dumbass.jpg?resize=300%2C219&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/recovering-dumbass.jpg?resize=500%2C365&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/recovering-dumbass.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There is a reason why I prefer to owe money. When you get a refund, it means that you overpaid your taxes, and that basically, you have given the United States Government a nice interest free loan. Yes, that is what I said. You have generously supplied the treasury with a loan and they are repaying it with no interest to you.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/shocked-face.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-20636\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/shocked-face-300x225.png?resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/shocked-face.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/shocked-face.png?w=400&amp;ssl=1 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In my case, and in the case of many others with half a brain, we don\u2019t really want to loan the Congress any of our money. Instead, we would rather put it into interest bearing accounts and actually increase our assets. This means we will set the withholding to zero on the W2\u2019s we fill out.<\/p>\n<p>Also, I have investments that earned dividends and those are also taxable. What hurts there is my reinvestment system. I use something called a \u201cDRIP\u201d through my broker. This is short for Dividend Reinvestment Program. When the dividend is posted to my account, more shares are bought of the stock that just paid me a dividend. This means a bigger dividend the next cycle. Wash, rinse, repeat.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Evil-Grin.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-21766\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Evil-Grin-300x169.jpg?resize=300%2C169\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Evil-Grin.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Evil-Grin.jpg?resize=500%2C282&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Evil-Grin.jpg?w=625&amp;ssl=1 625w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The down side is that the cash isn\u2019t available to handle the taxes I know I will be paying. I have to pull that from my savings. Still, the dividends earn me far more then I would get with just a bank account and 100% more then if I handed the money to Uncle Sam in the hopes of a refund a year later. Also, the new tax law is fully kicking in now. I\u2019ve already seen a nice cut in my taxes and that money is going into my stock portfolio and my IRA accounts.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of the new tax laws, many people forgot that besides cutting rates, the new law also cut a lot of deductions, and increased the standard deduction. One of the places that people are getting hit is the now missing deductions for state income taxes and property taxes above a certain level. In the past, these deductions have allowed high tax states to hide what they are stealing from people. Now people are seeing just how badly they\u2019re getting screwed by their state and local governments.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/BOHICA.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-16367\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/BOHICA-300x240.jpg?resize=300%2C240\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/BOHICA.jpg?resize=300%2C240&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/BOHICA.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Will the voters actually start putting people into office who don\u2019t treat the taxpayers as money trees to pick cash from? Considering most of the high tax states are run by Democrats, (Generally into the ground), I would say no. Instead, you are seeing the richer taxpayers moving out and heading to states with lower levels of taxation. This drives the progressives nuts, since all they see is \u201cThe Rich\u201d stealing all the money that rightfully belongs to the government, in other words, to the Progressive Liberal Democrats.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/snob_che_frame.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-16081\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/snob_che_frame-215x300.jpg?resize=215%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"215\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/snob_che_frame.jpg?resize=215%2C300&amp;ssl=1 215w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/snob_che_frame.jpg?w=268&amp;ssl=1 268w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 215px) 100vw, 215px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It sucks to be them, doesn\u2019t it? In closing, all I will say is \u201cStop your sniveling and do a better job of figuring out how to legally shaft the tax collectors!\u201d If you want to provide no interest loans to the government, then increase your withholding to the maximum allowed. You might even get it back. If you are like me, figure out roughly what you will need to send in, and set it aside in an interest bearing account. 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