{"id":33782,"date":"2021-02-17T06:26:00","date_gmt":"2021-02-17T11:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=33782"},"modified":"2021-06-09T05:12:21","modified_gmt":"2021-06-09T09:12:21","slug":"baens-bar-taken-offline-due-to-whiny-progressive-totalitarian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=33782","title":{"rendered":"Baen\u2019s Bar taken offline due to whiny Progressive totalitarian"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Normally I would start with \u201cGood day all\u201d but not today. I am truly angry that a forum I have been on for at least 10 years was forced offline, hopefully temporarily, because of a loudmouthed whiny hard left anti-free speech progressive two legged turd. I speak of Baen Publishing\u2019s in house forum, Baen\u2019s Bar.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/79\/cf\/97\/79cf97a8a1dda3462047cc50a33ffbe8.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" \/><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>At about 12pm Eastern Standard Time,February 16<sup>th<\/sup>, the management of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baen.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Baen Publishing<\/a> took The Bar offline while they reviewed what that walking diaper stain accused the Bar Flies of posting, which was that they were calling for the violent overthrow of the Fake President, among other things. This is a bald face untruth.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter \" src=\"https:\/\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/62\/31\/9b\/62319bd042be631b5ea059376c518751.jpg\" width=\"393\" height=\"294\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Baen\u2019s Bar is a forum for authors and their fans. There are a number of sub-forums including one for politics. That forum can get pretty hot and heavy and isn\u2019t for the faint of heart or the weak of bladder. There are people from all sides of the political spectrum, from ultra-conservative to flaming moonbat leftists, socialists and communists. (Is there a difference?)<\/p>\n<p>There are also a large number of former military personnel on The Bar including a couple of authors. (Tom Kratman, John Ringo and Michael Z. Williamson are a few that I know of and have conversed with) There are also a number of members who come from lands far from the hallowed shores of the Untied States of America. Places such as Ireland, Germany, Australia and India. All are welcomed, and encouraged to share their views on pretty much everything.<\/p>\n<p>As you might have guessed, I do spend time on The Bar, much of it in the politics forum, although I also go to a number of author forums as well. The recent election and the serious questions regarding the validity are, of course, a hot topic in Politics. Also the recent incident on January 6<sup>th<\/sup> has also been a major topic of discussion, with people who live for digging out nuggets of information that the Media can\u2019t be bothered to do.<\/p>\n<p>As for the accuser, some nobody by the name of Jason Sanford, he apparently signed up for access to the bar, visited a couple of forums and promptly wet his pants. He then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/posts\/47582408?fbclid=IwAR3xVBTfZzSXeSGSt41m4OdaYsyztHo9AuhVjOJ18HnBRJYh4UDrUDrbgwU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">posted a screed on Patreon<\/a> claiming that Baen\u2019s Bar is being used to advocate violence. I read through it, as did many of the Barflies and we were just starting to discuss it when news came down from on high that because of the progressive wimp\u2019s complaints to Baen\u2019s hosting company, the publisher, The fair and magnificent Toni Wiesskopf was taking the Bar off line.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter \" src=\"https:\/\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/2e\/36\/cb\/2e36cbc4281d03f8441cd4ffeb10e922.jpg\" width=\"471\" height=\"331\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.baen.com\/bb021621\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ms. Wiesskopf has posted a message on the entry page of Baen\u2019s Bar<\/a> explaining what and why the Bar is offline. Through other web sites and blogs, notably highly successful Author <a href=\"https:\/\/monsterhunternation.com\/2021\/02\/16\/publishing-house-baen-books-attacked-by-cancel-culture\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Larry Corriea\u2019s Monster Hunter Nation<\/a>, as well as various social and socialist media sites, (Mewe being central since they don\u2019t censor people as long as the law isn\u2019t being broken, unlike Faceplant and Twitler), additional information has come out.<\/p>\n<p>It seems that as soon as the effeminate <span style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\"><i>Sanfool<\/i><\/span> Sanford changed into a fresh pair of Pampers, he ran off to tattle to the hosting company that Baen\u2019s Bar was a hotbed of racism, white supremacists, (Which amused a large number of Barflies who aren\u2019t Caucasian), and violent militants bent on destroying the government and cleaning out the ever so wonderful Progressives, Liberals and the rest of the \u201cCaring\u201d elites.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/butthurt.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23096\" src=\"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/butthurt-300x288.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"288\" srcset=\"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/butthurt-300x288.jpg 300w, https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/butthurt.jpg 405w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>One of the accusations this clown made was in regards to a poster from India who is nicknamed \u201cThe Swarthy Menace.\u201d Shit for Brains Sanford promptly used that as one of his \u201cPieces of evidence\u201d in his libelous screed against Baen Publishing and the hundreds of \u201cdenizens\u201d of The Bar. To my knowledge, he didn\u2019t bother to try and contact the gentleman in question about the nickname.<\/p>\n<p>I happen to know this man. Oh we haven\u2019t met physically. He is Indian and lives in India. We have chatted on The Bar a time or two and to put it bluntly, He\u2019s more American then Sleazeford. He refers to himself by the nickname, and I believe he has referred to his lovely wife as Mrs. Swarthy Menace. (I may be mistaken here, and if so I do apologize to his intelligent and beautiful bride)<\/p>\n<p>As I recall, and this was some time ago, he earned the nickname when he was ripping some Progressive Racist moron a new one in one of the Forums. Someone referred to him as a menace to liberals and from there the Swarthy menace was born. Not one person on The Bar would ever refer to him by a racist term, unless they were Progressive Liberals, who think that people like Mr. \u201cMenace\u201d are incapable of succeeding without the \u201cHelp\u201d of the \u201cGreat White Liberal Elite.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Good old Arun has been taking a number of courses and has been gaining a number of IT certifications. There are many on The Bar, including myself, who would jump at the chance to bring him the USA as a legal resident Alien. Tell me again how the people on Baen&#8217;s Bar are racists when they want to bring someone into the country legally?<\/p>\n<p>When the Barflies found out about the load of crap Slimeford had posted, there was a rush to see what the fuss was about. I can tell you, a lot of people wanted to post their response to this jerk, but Patreon requires you to &#8220;Pay to Play&#8221; if you want to post comments. Most people, on reflection, thought that not posting on his page was probably a good idea since there is little doubt that Shit for Brains would load up his pants again when Barflies came in and started throwing around all those horrible \u201cFacts\u201d and \u201cCitations\u201d showing him to be a scummy little puke.<\/p>\n<p>As for Toni Weisskopf and Baen Management, I understand that they have to take care of their business first. Thanks to Big Tech and how Amazon Web Services nearly killed <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210110214237\/https:\/\/parler.com\/profile\/Angrywebmaster\/posts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><b>Parler<\/b><\/a>, they need to make sure that they won\u2019t be blown offline by the tyrannical totalitarians of Big Tech. (For the record, I do not know who hosts Baen\u2019s web sites) I hope that Ms. Weisskopf can clear up this matter in short order and bring The Bar back online as soon as possible.<\/p>\n<p>As for Jason Sanford and the rest of the Progressive Liberal Totalitarian, anti-Free Speech scum, you might want to consider that your actions are going to make things a lot worse, not better. There was a lot of discussion on The Bar in several forums over the actions of Antifa and the Black Communist Lives Only Matter thugs and terrorists and what they\u2019ve been doing the last year or so.<\/p>\n<p>The discussions were about how to deal with these terrorists if they came into the neighborhoods of the Barflies and started they usual looting, rampaging and burning. Since a fair number of these people are former military, with many combat veterans, the discussions were quite lively with technical details on building defensive zones and how to short circuit the riots, both with non-lethal and frankly very lethal means. None of them ever said they were going to arm up and go out looking for these thugs. They only said they would be ready if they came into town and started something.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-20619\" src=\"http:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-300x214.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"214\" srcset=\"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-768x548.jpg 768w, https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-1024x731.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump-500x357.jpg 500w, https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Donald-Trump.jpg 1180w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This isn\u2019t to say that sometimes people don\u2019t go over the top in the heat of the moment, they do. One person, thanks to the games played by Nancy Pelosi, is basically homeless. When we found out that Pelosi was intentionally delaying President Trump\u2019s plans to assist people like this gentleman, he, frankly, lost it. He never made any threats towards the Speaker of the House, but he was hoping that she would drink herself to death.<\/p>\n<p>When people do get a bit heated, Baen has several volunteer moderators who will come in and either talk with the person in question, (Privately through the internal messaging system), or if needed, bounce them from The Bar for a period of time to cool off. Some people didn\u2019t get the message and were permanently banned. (There are only three or four that I can recall)<\/p>\n<p>These are the exactly wrong sort of people you want to push over the edge. Many are former long service military from all branches of the service, with at least one that I know of who dealt with nuclear weapons. Many were infantry, and when it comes to mayhem, they have PhD\u2019s in it, courtesy of the United States government. They also know just how bad things would be if the \u201cBoogaloo\u201d ever kicked off. None of them want to see this happen, and apart from discussing scenarios, none, no matter what Dickless Sanfart thinks, have any intention of starting a shooting civil war.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know what legal recourse Ms. Weisskopf or the Baen Publishing management has in regards to Jason Sanford\u2019s potentially libelous accusations, but I hope they find something they can hang this guy with, so to speak, in a court of law. I\u2019m also wondering if there is some lawful action that can be taken against Patreon? Not to shut them down, but to get them to bounce Jason Sanford from their platform. 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I am truly angry that a forum I have been on for at least 10 years was forced offline, hopefully temporarily, because of a loudmouthed whiny hard left anti-free &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=33782\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_seo_schema_type":"","footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[63,750,100,71,8,315,62,115,57,35],"tags":[405,756,753,462,52,4,125,127,224,12,222,17,377,90,8,413,110,24,34,57,27],"class_list":["post-33782","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-book","category-maga","category-moonbat","category-news-of-the-day","category-politics","category-precious-snowflakes","category-reviews","category-stupidity-crime","category-technology","category-tyranny","tag-1st-amendment","tag-baens-bar","tag-cancel-culture","tag-communazis","tag-constitution","tag-entertainment","tag-epic-fail","tag-fascism","tag-free-speech","tag-freedom","tag-good-idea-fairy","tag-liberty","tag-maga","tag-moonbattery","tag-politics","tag-progressives","tag-scoamf","tag-socialism","tag-stupidity","tag-technology","tag-totalitarianism"],"views":1255,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":34276,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=34276","url_meta":{"origin":33782,"position":0},"title":"Baen\u2019s Bar is BACK!!!","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"April 9, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. I have been notified that Baen\u2019s Bar is back online! I have successfully logged in with both the web interface and my preferred news reader using NNTP. The Cancel Culture has FAILED! FAILED! FAILED! To kill one of the better meeting places online. As you will recall,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Entertainment&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Entertainment","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=4"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/52\/00\/48\/52004815443b569faa198172c242cfb0.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":34245,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=34245","url_meta":{"origin":33782,"position":1},"title":"Baen\u2019s Bar is coming back!!","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"April 6, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. It has been a few months since Baen\u2019s Bar was forced offline thanks to a lying Progressive scumbag, who I have taken to calling Jason Sandfart, accused people on The Bar of every crime he could think of. He managed to piss off exactly the wrong sort\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Book&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Book","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=63"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/52\/00\/48\/52004815443b569faa198172c242cfb0.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":33825,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=33825","url_meta":{"origin":33782,"position":2},"title":"Baen\u2019s Bar, the counterattack continues","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"February 22, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. Things are getting hot for the Progressive pinhead, Jason Sandfart. The attempt to by this loser to take down Baen Publishing is now going viral as more and more sights not connected with Baen pick up on the story. One of the first ones, and I have\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Book&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Book","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=63"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/52\/00\/48\/52004815443b569faa198172c242cfb0.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":33884,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=33884","url_meta":{"origin":33782,"position":3},"title":"Assault on Baen\u2019s Bar, More on the Jason Sandford front","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"March 2, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. Sadly, as of this post, Baen\u2019s Bar is still offline, thanks to the evil machinations of Jason Sandford, or as I refer to him, \u201cSandfart.\u201d I don\u2019t have any \u201cInside track\u201d on what is happening in Baen Publishing regarding this, although I do \u201cknow a few people\u201d\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Book&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Book","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=63"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/i.pinimg.com\/originals\/52\/00\/48\/52004815443b569faa198172c242cfb0.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":33795,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=33795","url_meta":{"origin":33782,"position":4},"title":"The fight to save Baen\u2019s Bar is ON!","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"February 20, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Good day all. I wrote up a post regarding the, hopefully, temporary, shut down of the Baen\u2019s Bar forum. The person who wrote up the, in my unschooled opinion, libelous posting, Jason Sanford, has managed to royally piss off everyone on The Bar, and quite a few Baen Authors of\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Jobs&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Jobs","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=141"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/angry.net\/blog2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/full-retard-294x300.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":3794,"url":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=3794","url_meta":{"origin":33782,"position":5},"title":"Is it time to leave Afghanistan?","author":"Angry Webmaster","date":"April 4, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"Greetings. As you may or may not remember, I like to follow a web forum called Baen's Bar. The Bar is it is called is hosted by Baen Publishing and is a place where Baen Authors and their readers can get together and talk about most anything.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Politics&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Politics","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?cat=8"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33782","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=33782"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33782\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":34721,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33782\/revisions\/34721"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=33782"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=33782"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=33782"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}