{"id":45283,"date":"2025-07-12T09:34:08","date_gmt":"2025-07-12T13:34:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=45283"},"modified":"2025-07-12T09:34:08","modified_gmt":"2025-07-12T13:34:08","slug":"stop-counting-noncitizens-in-the-census","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angry.net\/blog2\/?p=45283","title":{"rendered":"Stop counting noncitizens in the Census?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Good day all. Every 10 years, the Federal Government conducts a census to count all the people living in the United States. This count is important since it determines how may seats in the House of Representatives a state gets. Lately, one of the questions on the Census is, should illegal aliens be counted?<\/p>\n


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This has become a major issue since the Biden Maladministration threw open the borders and let in anywhere between 10-20 million illegal aliens. Most of these criminals have settled in Democrat controlled states. These States have also been seeing a major out-flux of residence since they can\u2019t get rid of the Democrats and can\u2019t stand the Progressives tyranny.<\/p>\n

States such as New York, California and Illinois did lose one or more seats in the last Census and are on track to lose more in 2030. Obviously, since a major part of their population are criminals who shouldn\u2019t be here in the first place, the Democrats want them to be counted. However, the Trump Administration is looking to not count illegal aliens. Here are the details from Real Clear Investigations<\/b><\/a>:<\/p>\n

Following a years-long surge in illegal immigration, the Trump administration is poised to challenge a longstanding but legally fraught practice: counting illegal aliens in the U.S. census. <\/b><\/p>\n

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President Trump tried to end the practice during his first term, but President Biden overturned his predecessor\u2019s policy before it was implemented. Now, buoyed by red state attorneys general and Republican legislators, the second Trump administration is determined \u201cto clean up the census and make sure that illegal aliens are not counted,\u201d White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller said\u00a0<\/a>last month. <\/b><\/p>\n

There are a number of issues with this, starting with the whole representation in the House. There are many other things, almost all of them dealing with money.<\/p>\n

What Miller didn\u2019t mention are the political implications of the administration\u2019s move. It could have significant political implications because the census count is used to apportion House seats, determine the number of votes each state gets in the Electoral College for selecting the president, and drive the flow of\u00a0trillions of dollars<\/a>\u00a0in government funds. <\/b><\/p>\n

I had forgotten that the electoral college votes are tied to the number of seats in the House of Representatives. Of course, when the Electoral College goes against the Democrats, they want to abolish it. (They keep forgetting that we are a republic and that means we are a representative democracy, not a direct democracy)<\/p>\n

Some immigration researchers\u00a0project<\/a>\u00a0that including noncitizens in the census count disproportionately benefits Democratic states with large illegal alien populations. <\/b><\/p>\n

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A recent\u00a0study<\/a>\u00a0counters that, based on 2020 census figures, there would have been a negligible shift to the political map had the U.S. government excluded noncitizens from that count. But looking backward, those researchers found, red states would have benefited under the administration\u2019s desired census counting shift. <\/b><\/p>\n

While I haven\u2019t really looked into it, apparently there were some \u201cissues\u201d with the 2020 census and that states like California and New York should have lost more seats and states like Texas and Florida should have picked up more seats. However, I have not really looked into this.<\/p>\n

Had authorities excluded such migrants from the 2010 census, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio and North Carolina all would have gained one seat in the House, while California would have lost three seats, and Texas and Florida would have each lost one seat \u2013 with the total number of Electoral College votes allotted each state changing accordingly. <\/b><\/p>\n

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Texas and Florida would have lost a seat each? Are they dealing with that many illegal aliens inside their states?<\/p>\n

Since the first census in 1790, the nation has counted not only citizens but also residents to determine such representation. In addition to citing its long history, defenders of the practice say it is only fair that states should be given the power and resources to represent and serve everyone within their borders. <\/b><\/p>\n

Back in those days, we didn\u2019t have a problem with illegal immigration. Why? Because we wanted as many people as possible to come to the New World and eventually become citizens. The United States passed it\u2019s first Immigration laws in 1790. There were a number of various laws passed throughout the 18th<\/sup> and 19th<\/sup> centuries, and frankly, they were flat out racist. There have been a number of other laws passed and repealed over the centuries. I found a timeline you can use<\/b><\/a> if you are interested.<\/p>\n

Critics contend the government\u2019s powers come from \u201cWe the people\u201d \u2013 citizens or eligible voters \u2013 a government established before tens of millions of migrants resided in the country illegally. They also say the practice dilutes the representation of American citizens while incentivizing localities to promote illegal immigration. <\/b><\/p>\n

That it does. The Progressive Liberal Democrats are also using American Citizens and legal resident aliens as ATM to give welfare to the Illegal Aliens.<\/p>\n

Trump\u2019s first term hints at what is to come if his administration vigorously pursues a citizen-centric census policy. In July 2020, when the president issued a\u00a0memorandum<\/a>\u00a0to exclude illegal migrants from the census, blue states and immigration groups challenged it in court almost immediately.\u00a0 <\/b><\/p>\n

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Those challenges rose all the way to the Supreme Court. But it did not rule on the merits \u2013 whether all residents must be counted and if the president has the authority to exclude nonresidents \u2013 setting the stage for a battle over immigration and presidential power. <\/b><\/p>\n

Of course not. One thing the Roberts court will be remembered for was Chief Justice John Roberts being a craven coward who didn\u2019t want to actually do his job. Now, once things get underway, SCOTUS will have to rule.<\/p>\n

The census issue hinges on the Constitution\u2019s language, which calls for apportioning House seats among the states \u201caccording to their respective Numbers.\u201d Those \u201cNumbers\u201d originally included \u201cfree Persons\u201d and \u201cthree-fifths of all other Persons\u201d \u2013 namely slaves, a result of the states\u2019 compromise. The framers excluded \u201cIndians not taxed\u201d \u2013 Native Americans who were members of sovereign tribal nations, not citizens \u2013 from the count.\u00a0 <\/b><\/p>\n

There is also another section of the Constitution that is being called into question. The 14th<\/sup> Amendment, specifically Section 1:<\/p>\n

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. <\/b><\/p>\n

The legal question is the wording of Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof. Illegal Aliens, since they didn\u2019t enter the United States legally, are technically not subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof, or so the challenge is asserting. However, when this was being discussed during the 1st<\/sup> Trump administration, this wasn\u2019t the section they were looking at.<\/p>\n

The first Trump administration lost a related case at the Supreme Court. In 2018, the administration reinstated a question on the decennial survey about the citizenship status of respondents \u2013 a move that likewise came under furious legal challenge. <\/b><\/p>\n

The Commerce Department stated that it reinstated the question at the behest of the Justice Department, which was seeking superior data on voting-age citizens necessary to enforce the Voting Rights Act. Critics sued the administration, saying that including the question, which administrations had dropped after 1960, would chill immigrant respondents, leading to an unconstitutional undercount. <\/b><\/p>\n

In June 2019, the justices found that while reinstating such a question was legal, the process by which the president sought to do so was invalid, since the Commerce Department\u2019s rationale for including it was \u201ccontrived\u201d and \u201cpretextual\u201d \u2013 in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act. <\/b><\/p>\n

The back and forth continued until the Tainted Election of 2020 and the installation of Dementia Joe Biden and his Autopen into the White House. His handlers promptly killed all of the Trump orders and court challenges. Now there are members of congress looking at legislative remedies.<\/p>\n

In May 2024, the House passed the Equal Representation Act on a largely party-line vote, but it failed to advance in the Senate. <\/b><\/p>\n

No surprise there. The Senate was still under the control of UpChuck Schumer and Democrats. However, the bill is being reintroduced. I suspect it will still fail in the Senate thanks to the filibuster, which the Democrats will use. In any case, something needs to be done to deal with the Democrats plans to institute the \u201cGreat Replacement Theory.\u201d<\/p>\n

Originally, this idea was nothing more than a warped conspiracy theory by the White Supremacists. (At least according to the usual Leftard Lunatics), However, as we\u2019ve seen over the last few years, these a lot of conspiracy theories have had a bad habit of actually being proven<\/a> real.<\/p>\n

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As to what is going to happen, I can\u2019t say. I do know that something must be done or the United States as a free and prosperous nation will come to an end. I, like most people, really don\u2019t have a problem with legal immigration. People might debate whether or not legal resident aliens should be counted for purposes of representation in the House, but most people, when asked, or utterly opposed to counting illegal aliens. I suspect that something is going to happen before the 2030 Census. In the mean time, break out the popcorn and enjoy the show.<\/p>\n

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